Rudolph Dreikurs in his theory discusses four goals of student's misbehaviour, which include: (1)attention seeking, (2)power seeking, (3)revenge seeking and (4)displaying inadequacy. Dreikurs in descirbing the reasons why these goals occur are due to the fact that students have a mistaken belief which will give them the recognition/attention that they want. I like Dreikurs theory because it provides an insight into the psychology or the thinking of a student at times of misbehavior. In understanding the students mentality, Dreikurs then gives an evalution of how to combat the certain types of behavior accordingly. I feel that this is a great opportunity to analyse student behaviours and develop a better understanding into the misbehavior of students. Dreikurs' work i guess, lets us use our intuition and personal knowledge of a student as a guide to better manage inappropriate behaviour and to produce a better learning environment within a classroom.
yummy | (210.50.96.104) | Saturday, 25 May 2002 11:11:04 PM
where can i find dreikurs theory?
Andrew Jamieson | (129.78.104.154) | Monday, 27 May 2002 1:08:50 PM
Like Adib I thought that the Dreikurs theory is useful in understanding the motives of the childrens' misbehaviour. It is a good starting point for knowing who you are dealing with and some steps to go through to deal with the problem. I think it is a great tip to do the opposite of whatever you first think of doing.
Ljiljana | (203.109.250.98) | Monday, 27 May 2002 5:44:54 PM
I also found the Dreikurs theory useful, but Iam interested in "how does it work in classroom"? I am in a doubt when the "revenge" types of behaviour occures that anything except long time experience could help.Is it possible at that tough moment think about the Dreikurs theory?
Sophie | (210.50.100.210) | Monday, 27 May 2002 9:29:39 PM
I also found Dreikurs theory to be useful as he divides 'trouble-makers'
into four groups. Like Adib, I found his clear descriptions to be helpful in determining a students motivation for being disruptive in a classroom. His theory has helped me in developing my ability to react appropriatly to a students misbehaviour.
pierre | (129.78.64.5) | Sunday, 16 June 2002 5:02:10 PM
I find the material interesting to the extent that it helps us understand that a child/student is not some kind of "learning animal" to be trained according to the outcomes WE set out for them. Behaviours are not good or bad but rather appropriate or not to a given situation. Our job as teachers is to help them find behaviours that help them in class and in life. If we are to guide them in this process it is most important that we understand students' behaviours in the classroom.
Ossama Harris | (10.0.22.167) | Tuesday, 2 July 2002 1:20:24 PM
Dreikurs. Well i must say that his four goals of Misbehaviour are just
logical when you think about it. Ofcourse It is important not to generalize.
In this case Even though A = B, B does not always equal A. Let me explain.
Even though the Misbehaviour maybe the results of a inner Problem, The problem
may still be there without any visible symptom in terms of behaviour or it may take
a completely different course in terms of class behaviour. If the child is there to
secure uniqueness his misbehaviouring accorrding to set of rules where A=B and B=A
is not very Unique. But again his 4 goals are vverry insightful but i do not
recommend any person to take them as gospel there are exceptions to these rules.
mike | (206.184.186.3) | Thursday, 29 August 2002 10:30:10 AM
There is a book titled It's Not in the Genes by author, teacher, lecturer Mary Dalton. The book tells the story of her family and raising six children as a single mother. She works with Dreikurs and then applies his theories and it changes her life.
It is a great story and good example of Dreikurs philosophy.
student | (205.188.208.137) | Thursday, 2 January 2003 10:11:44 PM
Mary Dalton is a fraud. Don't listen to anything she has to say. The woman is a complete nut job...trust me, she taught a class i took and failed.
Eunice | (64.12.96.9) | Wednesday, 12 March 2003 4:29:04 AM
I took Mary Dalton class as well and I disagree...she is not a nut job. On the surface, her thinking is radical, but her methodology leads to a rational and stress free approach to deal with life. I am glad I met her…thanks Mary wherever you are.
Eunice
marthenetha waters | (66.210.229.165) | Saturday, 29 March 2003 3:34:53 AM
how can i find information about dreikurs
marthenetha waters | (66.210.229.165) | Saturday, 29 March 2003 3:37:45 AM
how can i find information about RUDOLPH Dreikurs
Dianna | (216.86.66.65) | Thursday, 5 June 2003 4:28:14 AM
Have you read "Beyond Discipline" by Alfie Kohn? He perceives Dreikur differently. Since I have not read anything by Dreikur, I would appreciate your slant if you have read Kohn.
no where=now here | (138.88.143.21) | Monday, 9 June 2003 4:49:09 AM
I agree with the "student". Mary Dalton is a nut.
Student | (138.88.143.21) | Monday, 9 June 2003 4:52:19 AM
Do you think that RUDOLPH DREIKURS would like a large drink with his fries?
Robert | (144.134.205.113) | Tuesday, 10 June 2003 10:22:57 AM
Good Info for my Teaching exam, which category would student-student personality clashes fall under ?
Sarge | (209.240.198.62) | Thursday, 12 June 2003 1:48:22 AM
Dianna, Kohn seems to take only the worst of each phylosophy to stress his opinion. While I don't necessarily disagree with much of what Kohn has to say, I think too much can be taken out of context. Specifically "logical/natural consequences", which Kohn implies to mean that pain must be experienced to promote change. What this actually means is that there are consequences that will occur with given behavior. Teachers should stress the intrinsic benefits of good behavior and not place extrinsic demands to meet expectations. So this is really not a negative concept, just stressing how to positively point out why a person would benefit from acting a certain way.
"Student" | (138.88.36.113) | Monday, 16 June 2003 4:40:07 AM
I've been up all night wondering ....what is Rudolph Dreikurs' middle name?????
Student | (138.88.44.31) | Thursday, 26 June 2003 11:52:17 AM
I still can't get to sleep...does anyone know Rudolph Dreikurs' middle name? Also, I'm REALLY interested in knowing if he liked fried food.
John | (138.88.44.31) | Thursday, 26 June 2003 12:05:13 PM
According to Rudolph Dreikurs' theory, the strange responses from the "student" are due to he/she feeling like they are not valued as part of the group. The "student's" "mistaken goal" is attention seeking. Dreikurs would say to "catch that student being good".
Studnet | (138.88.44.31) | Thursday, 26 June 2003 12:07:19 PM
Could someone please tell me what Rudolph Drekurs' middle name is???
Michel | (67.23.35.238) | Sunday, 12 October 2003 3:17:33 AM
To STUDENT
I don't have a middle name. What makes you think Rudolph Dreikurs does?
Caroline | (202.71.168.59) | Tuesday, 14 October 2003 8:49:53 PM
Michel are you trying to do your Ed21429 assignment on dreikurs?
Teacher | (170.222.245.191) | Wednesday, 15 October 2003 4:41:14 AM
As a teacher, I'm having a hard time with reading Kohn, he seems to present teachers as people who are just too lazy to care what works for children, mean, and power hungry. I agree with many of his foundational ideas - intrinsic value of being/acting appropriatly - I take issue with his presentation of the public school teacher. I work with a group of very dedicated, caring, professionals. Dreikurs - at least from Kohn's attack position - is a pretty draconian behaviorist.
student | (65.247.155.211) | Tuesday, 4 November 2003 7:16:21 AM
What is his middle name? i need info on my report about him can you please help me on this?
student | (65.247.155.211) | Tuesday, 4 November 2003 7:17:13 AM
What is his middle name? i need info on my report about him can you please help me on this?
student | (65.247.155.211) | Tuesday, 4 November 2003 7:18:01 AM
What is his middle name? i need info on my report about him can you please help me on this?
guesser | (203.33.168.23) | Monday, 10 November 2003 2:44:48 PM
maybe it is theodore... that would go with rudolf. why don't you try the library catalogue... or the internet?
student | (138.217.254.241) | Sunday, 29 August 2004 2:20:46 PM
can anyone tell me where i can find biographical information on dreikurs?
student G | (66.210.128.15) | Wednesday, 8 September 2004 11:48:44 PM
Where can i find ifo on Dreikurs....in doing a report on himn and need help!!!!
Ashley | (66.210.128.15) | Thursday, 9 September 2004 2:24:02 AM
He does not want you to know his middle name
Student 25 | (66.210.128.15) | Friday, 10 September 2004 12:10:02 AM
I need to know all about Dreikurs can anybody plz help me!!!!Im desperate!!!!
Marcos | (66.210.128.15) | Friday, 10 September 2004 12:12:30 AM
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kenisha | (208.131.171.142) | Wednesday, 2 February 2005 10:34:07 AM
i like this but can you give me more detail about his theory?
Jayme | (154.5.176.77) | Wednesday, 9 March 2005 8:19:44 PM
I have used Dreikurs ideas to raise my kids and they became goal oriented, successful, willing to help others, and self directed. I also used his theory as a substitute day care worker. I was successful at every turn. I picked up a teen at the jail and worked with him to be able to make his life work. Those who have the last goal of misbehavior of displaying inadequacy can sometimes go into suicide. Please be gentle with each other. One thing Dreikurs recommends is to have the courage to fail. Today society puts failure at such a negative even those who are second can be at risk for suicide such as the man who lost the boxing match on the contender. We have to stop being so judgemental and lift each other up. Give more awards than a few. We are each unique and we should celebrate it.
Jayme | (154.5.176.77) | Wednesday, 9 March 2005 8:20:01 PM
I have used Dreikurs ideas to raise my kids and they became goal oriented, successful, willing to help others, and self directed. I also used his theory as a substitute day care worker. I was successful at every turn. I picked up a teen at the jail and worked with him to be able to make his life work. Those who have the last goal of misbehavior of displaying inadequacy can sometimes go into suicide. Please be gentle with each other. One thing Dreikurs recommends is to have the courage to fail. Today society puts failure at such a negative even those who are second can be at risk for suicide such as the man who lost the boxing match on the contender. We have to stop being so judgemental and lift each other up. Give more awards than a few. We are each unique and we should celebrate it.